Episode 13

E13. In Gold We Trust 2025 - The Big Long

Return Stacked is back with a deep dive into the world of alternative assets, featuring Mike Philbrick—CEO of ReSolve Asset Management and co-founder of Return Stacked ETFs, and Rodrigo Gordillo, President of ReSolve Asset Management and co-founder of Return Stacked ETFs, both of whom are recognized voices in asset management and diversification. In this engaging episode, Mike and Rodrigo explore a broad range of topics, including gold’s structural fundamentals, bitcoin’s emerging role, portfolio diversification techniques, behavioral biases, and the macro trends shaping global investment strategies.

(0:00) Event invitation and podcast introduction

(2:30) Episode focus: Gold, Bitcoin, and precious metals

(3:03) Historical perspective on gold and its value

(5:34) Gold's market dynamics and institutional interest

(10:36) Structural reasons for gold's performance and public participation

(17:01) Integrating gold into portfolios and comparison with other asset classes

(23:27) Future prospects for gold mining stocks

(24:33) Bitcoin as the digital counterpart to gold

(26:13) Bitcoin vs. gold: Volatility and allocation strategies

(30:34) Return stacking in portfolio construction

(33:28) Rebalancing strategies with gold and Bitcoin

(36:03) Institutional adoption of Bitcoin and gold

(38:18) Behavioral finance in commodity investing

(44:06) Incorporating non-correlated assets into portfolios

(49:32) Developing intuition for emerging asset classes

(51:01) Audience questions on volatility and leverage

(55:28) Managing risk and avoiding excessive leverage

(56:22) Seasonal gold investment strategies

(57:00) Leveraging borrowing costs for capital efficiency

(58:38) Diversifying with return stacking across asset classes

(59:01) Contact information and episode disclaimer

(59:48) Closing remarks and next steps

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Rodrigo Gordillo

Rodrigo Gordillo is the President and Portfolio Manager at ReSolve Asset Management Global, an alternative asset management firm specializing in globally diversified systematic investment strategies. He co-founded ReSolve Asset Management Inc. in 2015 and expanded to ReSolve Asset Management Global in 2021. Starting his career at John Hancock focusing on pensions, Gordillo transitioned to the ultra-high-net-worth sector with i3 Advisors Inc. He held significant roles at Macquarie Private Wealth, Dundee Goodman Private Wealth, and Richardson GMP, enhancing his expertise in investment decisions and client wealth management.
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Corey Hoffstein

Corey Hoffstein is the CEO and Chief Investment Officer of Newfound Research, a quantitative investment and research firm based in the Greater Tampa Bay Area, United States. Hoffstein co-founded Newfound Research with the aim of assisting investors in proactively managing investment risks through diversification, specifically by leveraging Return Stacking™ strategies. The firm specializes in managing alternative strategies and capital-efficient solutions, enabling the implementation of these innovative investment concepts. In addition to his role at Newfound Research, Hoffstein also serves as a Portfolio Manager at Return Stacked® Portfolio Solutions.